Three Podcasts

I’ve been on several podcasts and radio shows recently, and three shows are now available online. They are:

  • Nourish Balance Thrive with Christopher Kelly. We talked about caring for infants, since our Luke is 5 months old and Christopher has a 15 month old daughter. We also discussed the retreats, the healthfulness of low-carb diets, and other topics.
  • Clarity2Thrive with Ben Lowrey. We talked about the importance of intermittent fasting, why fats are a healthy part of the diet, circadian rhythms and longevity.
  • Live Toxic Free with Debra Lynn Dadd, a prominent green consumer advocate. This is a live radio program serving the Washington DC area, and I was the first guest of the new year. We covered a broad range of topics. For those who prefer reading to listening, Debra has produced a transcript.


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  1. Great podcasts.

    Paul, I’ve one question: You say you cook rice and put it in the fridge. When you want to eat it next day or so, do you warm it up or do you it cold?

    Thank you very much.

  2. I read the full transcript and I got it right this time. You say we can warm it up and eat. Thanks again.

  3. These podcasts were all excellent, as usual. Being a student of PHD, I have been led to related online sources of learning and just completed 26 hours of podcasts by experts, chiropractors and nutritionists mostly, on pain and inflammation, called The Pain Relief Project. THEN, same day, I went on to listen to the three podcasts you just posted. A podcast marathon, and my interest never waned (yikes). QUESTION re “eat what you are.” The case for eating heart, I believe, is heart has more mitochondria than any other organ. What is the NUTRIENT that heart provides, which apparently supports mitochondrial health (energy, APT) in humans? Would love to know because I couldn’t find liver anywhere this week so I am cooking a pound of chicken hearts instead. Herb may openly rebel when he sees a bunch of little chicken hearts on his plate tonight, so I want to tell him WHY we are eating heart.

    • Hi Peggy,

      CoQ10 and taurine are probably the major nutrients found predominantly in heart.

      • Oh, that is awesome news! We’re looking for food with CoQ10 because Herb had to go back on statins (long story), which can deplete CoQ10. The taurine is great, too, as we’re not supplementing with 500 mg per week, trying to get it through food. While Herb is not a Pottenger cat, he does like his red meat well done, but I’m working on that. Those cute little hearts are going to be PINK! Many thanks.

  4. Started listening to the Clarity2Thrive interview and was thrilled to hear the revision on recommended macro ratios. I missed that in 2012! Its what my macros naturally fall into when I eat what my body wants, and I am at a stable, healthy weight.

  5. Paul,
    When are you starting the PHD podcast?

  6. Paul,

    In the Nourish Balance Thrive podcast, you mention lemon juice can reduce the need for carbohydrates when on a lower carb diet. Could you please explain?

  7. I found that interview with the toxin free lady to be utterly charming, and the other two as well. I really enjoy it when people ask you for your top advice for anything and it is always the exact opposite of what they might expect. I’m looking forward to hearing more interviews with non Paleo people.

    it might help the average person listening if when you answered a scientific question to state what the received view is and then say “but that’s teally not true.” So in the first podcast, the guy was asking about saturated fat and I think it would have been useful for you (or him, quite frankly) to have said “most people think of saturated fat as the “bad” fat that clogs your arteries and gives you heart disease, but that’s not right and here’s why.” i study history of science and one of the things we talk about is how lay people understand and evaluate scientific theories. What usually happens is they create a functional mechanical model that explains to them what is going on even if it’s not at all accurate scientifically. It makes sense on an intuitive level for a lay person to think of saturated fat as something that “clogs” a pipe, but when you talk about fat you are utilizing a different explanatory metaphor. It might be helpful to reference the lay person’s metaphor, refute it, and the signal that you are taking about things in a different way.

    Along these lines, I’d love to hear yoi talk about why paleo people go to a hormonal level for explaining why we should eat a certain way, (don’t eat carbs because blood sugar! — I think this is reflected in the fact that everyone asks you that question when you say safe starches are ok) you use a different explanatory model, based on cell nutrition. What makes your approach really powerful is that your explanatory model is much more intuitive than the typical paleo expert’s explanation.. Hormones are too confusing, but everyone can understand that cells need To eat, too. Nutrition science is really still in its infancy, the person who wins is going to be the one who has the most compelling/easy to understand explanatory model for lay people and convinces scientists at the same time.

  8. Sorry, didn’t realize I was writing such a long comment!

  9. Peter Silverman

    Keep your handweights beside your computer next to the blue light blocking glasses!

  10. Why does the utube video identify you as author of The Perfect HUMAN Diet?

  11. I’m not much for listening to podcasts, so I love when there is a transcript! I know I’m a little late to the party, but I thought I’d comment anyway.

    First, I appreciated your honesty in the Nourish Balance Thrive podcast. I feel like a lot of health/wellness bloggers try to make it seem as though they and their families do everything “perfectly” so it was nice to know that you’re human. 😉 I really struggle with doing things “right” so it was nice to hear about what you feed your baby.

    I was surprised to hear that you think soaked, properly prepared beans are fine. Would they be fine to eat on a weekly basis or just occasionally?

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