Neu5gc, Red Meat, and Human Disease: Part I

A number of people asked for comments on the most recent red meat scare, including Nicole, Ryan, and Mishkin on the blog, JT Olds on Twitter, and others on Facebook. You probably saw some of the headlines:

The article Nicole linked is a bit more scientifically inclined: “Possible Link Between Red Meat Consumption And Increased Cancer Risk Identified” (IFL Science). Here’s the press release version from UCSD: “Sugar Molecule Links Red Meat Consumption and Elevated Cancer Risk in Mice”. In the blogosphere, Stephan has summarized the issue in the context of a post on red meat and cancer.

The headlines are based on a paper [01] that reported that, in mice genetically altered to lack a sugar (Neu5gc) that humans also lack, feeding Neu5gc and injecting anti-Neu5gc antibodies generates inflammation which can promote the growth of cancers.

Significance of Neu5gc

The paper itself is a rather artificial scenario whose significance will be determined by future work. So analyzing this single paper would not be interesting. But I think it’s worthwhile to look into the broader idea that eating Neu5gc-bearing meats might be inflammatory or a source of autoimmunity.

In terms of PHD recommendations, this could affect the relative emphasis we place on different meats. If Neu5Gc is a true health risk, then we would want to emphasize seafood more and red meat less.

Another benefit to thinking about Neu5gc is that it may give us some insight into what a PHD “autoimmune protocol” should look like.

Background: Evolutionary History of Neu5gc

All cells in multicellular organisms are coated in carbohydrates, and the carbohydrates terminate in one of 43 sialic acids. In mammals, two forms of predominate: Neu5Ac and Neu5Gc. Each mammalian cell has tens or hundreds of millions of molecules of Neu5Ac and Neu5Gc on its surface. [02]

Neu5Gc is made from Neu5Ac, but the gene for making Neu5Gc was inactivated in the human lineage shortly before the emergence of Homo. The mutation occurred 3.2 million years ago and reached fixation – that is, all ancestral hominids had come to have the mutated gene – 2.9 million years ago. [03] This very rapid fixation indicates there was strong selection in support of the mutation.

In fact, this mutation by itself may have led to a speciation event, after which our ancestors could no longer mate with other apes. From that point on, Neu5gc-less females had difficulty producing children with males who retained the Neu5gc gene, because they would form antibodies against Neu5gc-coated sperm, making fertilization unlikely. [04]

Why was losing Neu5gc selected in our ancestors? Two possibilities are likely:

  • Loss of Neu5gc improved brain function.
  • Loss of Neu5gc (temporarily) reduced vulnerability to (ancestral) pathogens.

It should be noted that Neu5Gc has been lost independently in some other mammals as well – ferrets and new world monkeys. New world monkeys such as capuchins and spider monkeys also experienced a brain expansion, and ferrets are notably smart, so either explanation might be relevant to these cases of “convergent evolution.”

Neu5gc and Brain Function

Carbohydrates are extremely important for intercellular interactions. Indeed, the incorporation of carbohydrates into cell membranes and extracellular matrix is what made possible the rise of multicellular life.

In no organ are intercellular interactions as complex or consequential as in the brain. Not surprisingly, then, carbohydrates including the sialic acids are important to brain function.

The human brain is extraordinarly rich in sialic acids: neural membranes have 20 times more sialic acids than membranes of other human cell types. Animal brains are also enriched in sialic acids relative to their other tissues, but not as much as in humans; the human brain has 2-4 times more sialic acids the brains of other mammals. [05]

Curiously, though, Neu5gc is rare in the brains of all animals. Neu5gc is strongly suppressed, by about 98%, in the brains of all vertebrates, suggesting that its presence inhibits brain function. [06] It appears that Neu5gc is somehow toxic to brain function.

Loss of the gene for Neu5gc completely eliminated Neu5gc from the hominid brain. If Neu5gc does impair brain function, mutational inactivation of Neu5gc would have improved brain function. If so, the mutational inactivation of Neu5gc could have been driven by the same evolutionary forces that, soon after, selected for the tremendous expansion of the hominid brain.

Incidentally, dietary sialic acids — except for Neu5Gc – appear to be nutritious for humans, and especially for the developing infant brain. Breast milk is exceptionally rich in sialic acids, almost all of it Neu5Ac. Formula, by contrast, has much lower levels of sialic acids (0.21 mmol/L compared to 3.72 mmol/L in breast milk). Breast fed infants have nearly twice as many sialic acids in saliva than formula fed infants, confirming that milk sialic acids are taken up by the body and utilized.

Animal studies show that sialic acids in breast milk nourish the brain. Sialic acids facilitate neurotransmission between neurons. When piglet milk is supplemented with sialic acids, brain sialic acid levels are increased, and the piglets learn faster and make fewer mistakes in maze tests. [05] Rodents also perform better on tests of learning and memory after sialic acid supplementation. [07]

Not only does formula have fewer sialic acids than breast milk, cow milk based formulas have some Neu5Gc. [05] It has been observed that formula-fed infants have lower IQs than breast-fed infants. Sialic acids might help explain that. The lack of nourishing Neu5Ac and the presence of toxic Neu5Gc in formula might lastingly impair brain function in formula-fed infants.

Neu5Gc and Infection Risk

As the outermost molecules in the carbohydrate coat surrounding cells, sialic acids are the first contact point for pathogens seeking entry to the cell, and for immune cells seeking to detect whether the cell is native or foreign.

There has been a “Red Queen” evolutionary arms race in which pathogens evolved ways to utilize sialic acids for cell entry, or to hide from the immune system; and animals evolved changes to their sialic acids to frustrate the pathogens. [08]

Many pathogens interact with sialic acids in order to adhere to and gain entry into the cell. Pathogens generally rely on a single specific endocytic route for cell entry. This often requires binding to a specific sialic acid as the initial point of attachment.

Pathogens that specifically utilize Neu5Gc to enter cells include canine and feline parvoviruses [09]; pathogens that specifically utilize Neu5Ac include adeno-associated viruses and the minute virus of mice (MVM) [10].

A human pathogen that uses sialic acids to enter cells is the malaria protozoan. Plasmodium falciparum causes severe disease in humans and enters cells via Neu5Ac; Plasmodium reichenowi causes milder disease in chimpanzees and gorillas and enters cells via Neu5Gc. Plasmodium falciparum appears to have evolved recently – possibly reaching its current form only 10,000 years ago when the rise of agriculture and animal husbandry brought humans and mosquitos into closer proximity – while Plasmodium reichenowi is thought to resemble the ancestral form that would have afflicted hominids and apes 3.5 million years ago.

Possibly, the gene for Neu5Gc was inactivated to protect ancestral hominids from malaria. With the loss of Neu5Gc, hominids would have become immune to P. reichenowi. [11] [12]

Unfortunately, after P. falciparum’s adaptation to Neu5Ac which is overabundant in humans, we now suffer from more severe malaria than chimpanzees or gorillas (the “malignant malaria” mystery). [13]

In addition to entry points for microbes, sialic acids can be entry points for microbial toxins. For example, Shiga toxin from shigatoxigenic E. coli binds to Neu5Gc. [14]

Sialic Acid Concealment and the Gut Microbiome

The immune system is sensitive to the composition of the carbohydrate coat on a cell. White blood cells have a number of sialic acid detectors on their surfaces (called Siglecs, for sialic acid Ig-superfamily lectins). Some, which bind to human sialic acids, inhibit immune responses. Others, which bind to non-human sialic acids, activate immune responses.

Thus, when white blood cells contact a cell bearing human sialic acids, the immune system interprets it as “self” and tamps down immunity. When it detects foreign sialic acids, the immune system treats the cell as “foreign” and is more likely to attack it.

Some microbes – including commensal gut microbes – have been living in humans long enough that they have learned to take up sialic acids, chiefly Neu5Ac, and incorporate them into lipopolysaccharides on their cell membranes. This suppresses immunity toward them. [15]

A number of human pathogens have learned the same trick. Pathogens that incorporate sialic Neu5Ac into their cell membranes for the purpose of mimicking human cells and evading human immune defenses include Escherichia coli K1, Haemophilus influenzae, Pasteurella multocida, Neisseria spp., Campylobacter jejuni and Streptococcus agalactiae. [16]

Due to this “molecular mimickry” of human molecules, it has been suggested that these bacteria – especially Haemophilus influenzae and Neisseria spp. – may be sources of autoimmunity. [17]

While some bacteria can synthesize sialic acids themselves, most obtain it from their environment. These bacteria release enzymes called sialidases to cleave the sialic acids from food in the digestive tract, from surrounding cells, or from mucus. [15] Bacteria can obtain Neu5Ac from human tissue and mucus as well as food, but Neu5Gc only from food, chiefly beef and pork.

Neu5Gc in Human Tissue

Although humans can no longer synthesize Neu5Gc, we still have all the cellular machinery for utilizing it. When dietary Neu5Gc is absorbed into the body and enters cells, it can be incorporated into glycoproteins bound for the cell surface glycocalyx, just as Neu5Ac is.

As a result, Neu5Gc of dietary origin appears at low levels on the surface of human cells.

Neu5gc is found at high levels in all mammals except humans, ferrets, and new world monkeys; birds and reptiles do not produce Neu5Gc at all, and fish and shellfish produce only low levels. So, of the four major meat groups – beef, pork, chicken, and fish – Neu5gc is obtained predominantly from the red meats, beef and pork.

Among human cells, Neu5Gc appears at highest levels on tumor cells, especially metastatic cells. [21] This makes Neu5Gc a potential target for cancer therapy.

Neu5Gc as an Immunogen

Neu5gc expressed on cell walls is a potential immunogen. When pig organs are transplanted to humans, Neu5Gc is the second most important cause of rejection, after the α1,3-galactose (αGal) epitope. [20]

Anti-Neu5gc antibodies have been found in 85% of humans. [18] It is thought that antibodies form in early childhood after dietary Neu5Gc is incorporated by certain gut bacteria into lipooligosaccharides that can generate antibodies. Some of these antibodies may cross-react with compounds human cells form from dietary Neu5Gc; these human molecules are then known as “xeno-autoantigens.” [21]


Neu5Gc from mammalian meats, such as beef and pork, is incorporated into the cell surface coats and walls of gut microbes and some human cells, mainly in the gut and in tumors. Neu5gc in bacterial walls is immunogenic and 85% of people have detectable antibodies to Neu5Gc. Eating beef and pork supplies antigens for these antibodies, potentially triggering inflammation. There are concerns that this inflammation may have negative health effects.

Next up: Neu5Gc and autoimmunity.

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  1. Nobody connects the dots like you do Paul,Your summary is kind of scary for us red meat eaters.Is Neu5Gc going to be the new gluten to avoid for some with autoimmune diseases .Will wait for your write-up on Neu5Gc and autoimmunity.

  2. “Unfortunately, ferrets are very prone to a variety of cancers. In fact, the majority of pet ferrets will have some sort of tumor or cancer during their lifetime.”

    Sorry to scare you!
    The correlation between unprocessed red meat and cancer is inconsistent and usually very small. Not only that but there are a lot of competing mechanisms – PCAs, Fe, insulin as well as neu5gc.
    If one considers aflatoxin – a proven carcinogen found in stored grains and legumes – then that also puts it in perspective.
    Lots of people are allergic to seafood.
    Pork is lower in neu5gc than red meat, but correlates with cirrhosis, a cause of liver cancer, whereas beef has negative correlation.
    I say eat the mix of meat that makes you feel healthiest. Mood is a great guide to immune health.

  3. Wondering: is neu5gc present in beef bone broth (as opposed to, for example, poultry bone broth)?

    Mood: I find that if I’ve been eating a lot of seafood as my main protein for a couple of days, I crave a big fat juicy steak or lamb chop….

    • Hi Peggy, yes, it will be present in beef bone broth in higher quantities than in other beef foods.

      Meat has a lot of good stuff in it so it can easily make you feel good!

  4. Dr. Jaminet,
    Thanks for sharing your brilliant research.

    What about Lamb?? And, er, deer for that matter?

    Mood: I instantly feel better when I eat a few bites of very rare meat. Was planning on searing a hanger steak tonight. Now I’m not sure we’ll enjoy it. 😕
    Good question about the beef bone/tendon broth.

    Regards, Regina

  5. I just have to think this is a ‘non-issue’ if the immune system is healthy.

    Birds don’t express Neu5Gc, yet many birds of prey make a living eating mammals. Seems to me that a body with a poorly trained immune system will just as easily attack itself or Neu5gc laden cells with equal vigor. Once the immune system is compromised, all bets are off, eh?

    People can easily be tested for the anti-Neu5Gc antibody. It would make sense that if someone was having loads of auto-immune conditions to be tested and avoid mammal meat until the immune system was restored. Luckily, it looks like the turnover rate of Neu5Gc in the human body is pretty fast, so it should be an easy, temporary fix to remove this from the equation.

    The paper linked above also describes why Neu5Gc is found so richly in tumors.

    “By contrast, Neu5Gc expression in humans and Neu5Gc-loaded Cmah−/− mice is detectable in normal tissues lining the blood vessels or in close proximity to blood vessels (25, 26, 28) suggesting that exogenously derived Neu5Gc enters an equilibrium between uptake into cells depending on direct supply and subsequent turnover, including irreversible degradation. As growing tumors are highly vascularized and characterized by high metabolism involving significantly increased macropinocytosis (83–85), these malignant cells are likely taking up more circulating Neu5Gc as compared with surrounding normal human cells at a time.

    The starch-fearing, prebiotic-fiber-poor/red-meat-rich Paleo diet once again comes up short! PHD at least can be proud for putting some prebiotics back in the gut!

  6. I looked to see if the Lone Star Tick, cause of red meat allergies, was implicated in this, but only the vegans are linking the two at the moment.

    If malignant cancer cells take up lots of Neu5Gc, don’t we WANT the immune system attacking cells that express it?

  7. Thank you Paul for commenting on this study – just read it a few days ago and searched pubmed – but with far less intersting outcomes than you have digged up. I thought after my search Neu5Gc might protect us from viruses ?!

  8. Hi Paul,

    While this article is well written, it is disconcerting since I favour beef and beef liver over seafood. If we start eating more fish and chicken, that’s also not good because chicken is an inferior, high in omega 6 meat while too much omega 3’s can also harm us.

    I thought our ancestors were relatively healthy eating wild game.

    I wonder if eating more fruits and vegetables or extra vitamin C can offset the inflammatory response from Neu5Gc.

    I hope there is a light at the end of this article!

  9. Hi Paul,

    Just curious if Neu5Gc is present in ruminant milk for those of us who like our dairy products.

  10. So, are we supposed to eat red meat or not? After reading PHD, I thought we were. But maybe not now?

    So confused… ❓

  11. hi,
    I looked at the reference for this statement: Due to this “molecular mimickry” of human molecules, it has been suggested that these bacteria – especially Haemophilus influenzae and Neisseria spp. – may be sources of autoimmunity. [17]
    The last line of the abstract says : There is no evidence that colonization or infections by these bacterial species is associated with autoimmune disease.
    Does the full paper give further insight – these seem to be opposing statements.

  12. I now wonder what to feed my son who has high functioning autism spectrum. Given the linkages that have been demonstrated between autism and neurological inflammation, I wonder whether to favour free range chicken or beef/lamb given the potential issues with Neu5gc. He can’t have seafood because he has histamine intolerance.

    • Personally I would go for duck, it’s supposed to be less inflammatory than chicken meat.

      I always wondered why I felt worse eating lamb and beef over white meat like chicken/turkey/duck…maybe now I know why!

  13. thanks for writing this;

    but from Stephan, i gather that the amount of the rodents diet is 40 times amount of equivalent red meat of a human.

    i agree with George that we should eat a variety of meat (& veg. too)

    look forward to Part 2


  14. Great post.

  15. I have Alpha Gal. Mammalian meat anaphylactic delayed allergy response thought to be caused by a tick. They are showing that it is possible that ticks secrete Neu5Gc in their saliva. I totally think there is a correlation between AG and the amount of Neu5Gc in our systems. They think their might be a genetic link to who presents with this illness and the severity. I contend that it is based on consumption, genetics, gut health and tick exposure. It’s all very interesting.

  16. I absolutely don’t know now after reading this if I should eat red meat (beef and lamb)since I have triple negative breast cancer. Please advise urgently! Many thanks

    • Hi Cheryl, the cancer evidence is really unconvincing, to me anyway. In principle it could work either way, the red meat could be helpful or harmful. I do think Hashimoto’s is definitely harmful so if you have signs of hypothyroidism I would avoid the red meat.

  17. If this sugar is present in all mammalian meat, does that mean it is also found in mammalian offal such as liver?

    If so, would it not make more sense to consume goose liver instead of beef / veal / lamb / mutton liver?

    I know goose liver is more expensive and contains only about half as much copper so we would need to eat it twice a week rather than once. But it appears to be an excellent source of vitamin K2, much more so than any mammalian liver. And guaranteed (?) free of Neu5gc.

  18. Hi, I have hypothyroidism (quite severe) but have never tested positive for Hashimoto’s. I am eating PHD style – however, I have over the last several years (prior to PHD) developed an allergy to many types of cooked fish. (Throat becomes sore, lips swell, face itches) I can eat sushi, pickled herring (a speciality here in Denmark), canned tuna, and fake crab (white fish – cold). The fish ‘allergy’ does not show up on allergy tests. I have tried avoiding for extended periods of time, but each time I try again – the response is worse.

    Someone has suggested a histamine response – but I can eat most other foods with no issue (besides occasional responses to some in-season apples, pears, avocados – which occasionally cause lip swelling and according to allergist are a response to the pollen in the fruit, not the fruit).

    What should a hypothyroid person do, who cannot eat fish ? PHD recommends against fish oil supplements.

    Although my fish ‘allergy’ symptoms are strange (I LOVE fish, so they are actually very annoying!), I was not that worried about eating my grass-fed animals beef and pork (from our neighbors) until now ?

    Suggestions ? Thank you as always for all your research and reflection that helps so many.

  19. Hi. any comments or help on my fish allergy noted above and what to supplement ? I do everything else ‘perfect’ but still struggling. So wondering if there is anyway to increase omega 3 for me? (Without causing thyroid a problem). Thank you !!

    • Use Algie derived DHA. Great source of omega 3. It’s what vegans use.

      • omega 3 is poisonous, look into acrolein, lipid peroxidation, lipofuscinosis, probs with lipopolysaccharides etc.
        the beneficial thyroid hormones are created endogenously with a proper functioning liver, T3 conversion, giving the body what it wants, namely staying away from polyunsaturated fats, ov which n-3 is EXTREMELY unsaturated. pretty much turns into a booger in your liver. only saturated fats will push them out.
        grasas-fed beef, which has higher levels of n-3 – also have the minerals, plenty of amino acids, and importantly rumen bacteria and conjugated lineolic acid, to mitigate the unsaturated fats, and the body processes them all at the same time, where as supplementing, happens separately and ultimately flushed down the toilet, or boogered up in the bod.

  20. Peter Silverman

    I stopped eating meat because of the heart disease risk, not the cancer risk. It was when Ronald Krauss said meat should be reserved for special occasions because it contributes to heart disease, though he said he wasn’t certain about the mechanism, maybe something to do with iron absorbtion. I pay attention to him because he seems to follow his research, and doesn’t seem to be a true believer. Also because his research about parts of LDL has been very well-received.

    • there are individuals who are eating the nose to tail diet and not just surviving with problems and mitigating them all of the time, chronic stresses, etc – they are thriving.
      the heart disease risk of red meat is entirely in context of what else you are eating – which means, sugar substitutes, processed foods LOADED with unsaturated fats, and iron overload, which must mean magnesium deficiency.
      firstly, mineral balance, of which this post really fails to address, it cherry picks the situation of glycolylneauraminic acids being bad, when first, the body must be balanced at the foundation. so yeah, if you are not processing the HDL into progesterone and so down the line, endogenously creating the favorable, longevity hormones – you are probably not going to have a good situation with accumulating other chemicals in the body from diet either.
      start with magnesium, get your minerals balanced, then begin to build the liver and thyroid back into working condition (500+ functions, not just making waste water soluble) with animal proteins, saturated fats, and SUGAR from natural sources like cane, maple, HONEY, and fruit.

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  24. Wanted to report an apparent success: a close friend has alopecia areata on her scalp, and has unsuccessfully tried many things over the years to manage it.

    I read about Neu5gc and she tried eliminating all mammal food sources, and after a few months it now seems that matters improved – she has less severe inflammation and no more wounds.

    Inflammation is still present, but it certainly seems like things improved.

  25. William Ragsdale

    scientist have known since 1907 that red meat caused cancer. The CMA gene (NEU5Gc) was the reason why it caused cancer. I has arthritis in 2015 but after giving up red meat, cheese and milk it left within 2 months.

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